Socrates (469–399 BCE) and Plato (427–347 BCE) - 2.2 | Unit 5: Governance, Rights, and Societies | IB Grade 8 Individuals and Societies
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Socrates (469–399 BCE) and Plato (427–347 BCE)

2.2 - Socrates (469–399 BCE) and Plato (427–347 BCE)

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The Socratic Method

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Today we'll discuss the Socratic Method. Socrates used questioning to challenge assumptions and pursue ethical truths. Can anyone explain how this method works?

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Student 1

It's like asking 'Why?' a lot. He wanted people to think deeper about their beliefs.

Teacher
Teacher Instructor

Exactly! By asking probing questions, Socrates aimed to illuminate ideas. This method is also about critical thinking, and we can think of it as the '4 Ws': Who, What, Where, Why. Each question leads to deeper understanding. Can anyone give an example?

Student 2
Student 2

Maybe questioning why we think something is right or wrong?

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Great example! Socratic questioning challenges us to think critically about our ethical views. Let's summarize: Socratic Method = questioning = deeper understanding.

Plato’s Concept of Justice

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Now, let's turn to Plato. In his book 'The Republic', he describes his idea of an ideal state. What are the three classes he outlines?

Student 3
Student 3

Rulers, auxiliaries, and producers.

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Teacher Instructor

Correct! The ideal society has these classes performing their specific roles in harmony. Plato believed that only philosopher-kings should rule because they possess wisdom. Can anyone articulate why knowledge is important in leadership?

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Student 4

Because if rulers are wise, they'll make better decisions for society.

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Exactly! Knowledge ensures that leaders act in the best interest of the citizens. Remember, Plato argues that justice is when everyone in society does their part effectively. Together, this leads to harmony.

Significance of Socratic and Platonic Philosophy

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As we wrap up, let’s discuss how the ideas of Socrates and Plato continue to influence us today. Why do you think their philosophies matter in discussions about governance?

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Student 1

Because they encourage us to think about what makes a good leader and society.

Student 2
Student 2

And they make us question our own beliefs, which is important!

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Absolutely! Their methods urge us to reflect on our values and responsibilities. Think of Socrates’s influence as a way to nurture ethical citizens. In summary: Socratic questioning helps critical thinking; Plato’s ideal state promotes virtuous leadership.

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This section explores the philosophical contributions of Socrates and Plato to governance, justice, and ethical inquiry.

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Focusing on the Socratic Method and Plato's ideal state as described in 'The Republic', this section highlights how these philosophical ideas laid the groundwork for understanding justice, authority, and the role of rulers in governance.

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Socrates and Plato

Overview

Socrates and Plato, two foundational figures in Western philosophy, significantly influenced concepts of justice, governance, and ethical inquiry. Socrates employed a method of questioning that questioned assumptions and sought to uncover ethical truths, while Plato envisioned a society governed by philosopher-kings in 'The Republic'. Their contributions continue to resonate in modern discussions about governance and justice.

Key Points

  1. Socratic Method: Socrates is known for his unique approach to dialogue and inquiry. He engaged in discussions that challenged his interlocutors, encouraging them to think critically about their beliefs and the implications of their actions. His method emphasized the importance of asking questions to arrive at profound truths, leading to a deeper understanding of ethics and morality.
  2. Plato’s Ideal State: In his work 'The Republic', Plato introduced the concept of an ideal society structured into three classes: rulers (philosopher-kings), auxiliaries (warriors), and producers (farmers and artisans). He argued that justice is achieved when each class performs its role in harmony with the others. Plato’s theories highlighted the importance of knowledge and virtue in leadership, positing that only philosopher-kings, who possess wisdom, should govern.
  3. Significance: The philosophical inquiries of Socrates and Plato laid the groundwork for subsequent political thought, emphasizing that ethical governance stems from knowledgeable and virtuous leaders. Their ideas encouraged future thinkers to explore questions of justice, responsibility, and the moral duties of those in power.

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Socratic Method

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● Socratic Method: Questioning to expose assumptions and pursue ethical truths.

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The Socratic Method is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue that uses questioning to stimulate critical thinking and illuminate ideas. Socrates believed that through systematic questioning, individuals could discover truths about ethical concepts and their own beliefs. Instead of presenting information, he encouraged discussions that would challenge assumptions and lead to deeper understanding.

Examples & Analogies

Think of a teacher in a classroom. Instead of just giving students facts, the teacher asks questions like, 'What do you think justice is?' By asking this, the teacher helps students explore their ideas and think critically about the concept of justice rather than simply accepting it as is.

Plato’s Republic

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● Plato’s Republic: Justice as harmony of classes (rulers, auxiliaries, producers), philosopher-king concept, and the vision of an ideal state.

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In 'The Republic', Plato presents his vision of an ideal society governed by philosopher-kings, who possess both love for wisdom and the ability to discern the truth. He describes a just society as one where different classes (rulers, auxiliaries, and producers) work in harmony. Each class has a specific role and contributes to the overall well-being of the society. The concept emphasizes that justice arises from everyone performing their role to the best of their ability.

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Imagine a sports team where each player has a specific position: a goalkeeper, defenders, midfielders, and forwards. For the team to win, each player must perform their role well, just like Plato’s classes must work together for a just society. If everyone just focused on playing the forward's role and ignored their specific position, the team would fail.

Key Concepts

  • Socratic Method: A questioning technique to elicit deeper understanding of ethics and truth.

  • Philosopher-King: The ideal ruler who governs with wisdom and virtue, as envisioned by Plato.

  • Justice: The principle of moral rightness that is central to Socratic and Platonic thought.

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Socratic dialogue on the nature of justice where students discuss their views on right and wrong.

In 'The Republic', Plato describes a society ruled by philosophers to ensure wisdom in decision-making.

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Socrates asks, and truth unfolds, wisdom comes from questioning bold.

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Imagine a wise king named Plato, who ruled a land where everyone knew their role. He had producers growing food, auxiliaries keeping peace, and philosopher-kings who ruled with wisdom.

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Remember the ABCs of Plato: A for Auxiliaries, P for Producers, and R for Rulers (philosopher-kings).

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Socratic Method

A form of cooperative argumentative dialogue that stimulates critical thinking through questioning.

PhilosopherKing

A ruler who governs based on their love of wisdom, justice, and knowledge, as proposed by Plato.

Republic

Plato's work outlining his vision of an ideal state and the role of justice.

Justice

A concept of moral rightness based on ethics, rationality, law, natural law, fairness, and equity.

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