Changes in Pole Locations - 95.2.1 | 95. Effect of feedback on frequency response (Part-A) | Analog Electronic Circuits - Vol 4
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Introduction to Feedback Systems

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Welcome class! Today, we're diving deeper into feedback systems and their influence on amplifier frequency response. Can anyone tell me why feedback is crucial for amplifiers?

Student 1
Student 1

I think it helps improve stability and reduces distortion, right?

Teacher
Teacher

Exactly! By using feedback, we can control the gain and enhance the consistency of the signal. Now, do you remember what poles are in this context?

Student 2
Student 2

Yes, poles relate to the frequency response of the amplifier, don't they?

Teacher
Teacher

Correct again! Poles indicate where the system's gain decreases, and they play a significant role in shaping the frequency response. Let's explore how feedback modifies these pole locations.

Single Pole Amplifier Feedback

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Now, let’s consider a forward amplifier with just one pole. What happens to its pole location when feedback is applied, say with a constant feedback factor Ξ²?

Student 3
Student 3

Does the pole move to a new location based on the feedback?

Teacher
Teacher

Exactly, the new pole position can be described by the equation p' = p(1 + Ξ²A). It represents a shift due to feedback, showing that feedback affects both gain and stability directly. Can someone summarize this relationship?

Student 4
Student 4

So, as gain increases due to feedback, the pole shifts to the right?

Teacher
Teacher

Yes! This shift can lead to better stability but lower gain at certain frequencies.

Multi-Pole Amplifier Dynamics

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Now, let’s move to amplifiers with two poles. How does feedback affect their pole locations?

Student 1
Student 1

Could one pole influence the position of the other?

Teacher
Teacher

Great question! Yes, if one pole is much lower than the other, it can dominate the system's behavior. In cases where the poles are closely spaced, adjustments in feedback will lead to more complex interactions. What do we call this scenario?

Student 2
Student 2

That's case II-B, right?

Teacher
Teacher

Yes! It becomes essential to identify the dominant pole when designing stable systems. Understanding these interactions helps you make informed design choices.

Practical Implications of Pole Shifting

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Finally, let's reflect on the practical implications of our discussions. What happens when we apply feedback to modify pole locations?

Student 3
Student 3

The gain is reduced, but we achieve more stability?

Teacher
Teacher

Exactly! This trade-off between gain and stability is crucial for designing reliable amplifiers. When feedback is implemented wisely, it can greatly improve performance. What are key factors to consider?

Student 4
Student 4

We should consider how far the new poles are from the original ones to maintain stability.

Teacher
Teacher

Absolutely! The dynamics of pole placement affect not just stability but also the overall response of amplifiers.

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Quick Overview

This section focuses on how feedback affects the frequency response of amplifiers by altering the locations of their poles.

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The section discusses the principles of feedback systems, specifically how the locations of poles in amplifiers change due to feedback. It covers various cases, such as when amplifiers have one or two poles and the implications of feedback on their frequency response. Key concepts include the gain of the amplifier, the feedback network, and the stability of the system.

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Changes in Pole Locations

This section addresses the impact of feedback on the frequency response of amplifiers, which is crucial for understanding their behavior in electronic circuits. The analysis begins by recalling the significance of amplifier gain and feedback in both time and frequency domains.

Key Points Discussed:

  1. Poles in Feedback Systems: The section emphasizes the importance of pole locations in determining the stability and frequency characteristics of feedback systems.
  2. Single Pole Influence: It elaborates on cases where the forward amplifier has one pole, and explores how feedback modifies this pole's location, leading to a shifted pole (denoted as p').
  3. Multiple Poles Consideration: The discussion expands to amplifiers with two poles and explains how their influence varies, especially when both poles are at significantly different frequencies or if one is dominantly affecting the frequency response.
  4. Gain Reduction and Shift: The section illustrates how the feedback can lead to a reduction in gain while simultaneously shifting the pole's location, maintaining a relationship governed by the formula p' = p(1 + Ξ²A), demonstrating the balancing act in circuit design.
  5. Continuing Analysis: Brief mention is made of further exploration into scenarios when the poles are closer in frequency.

The analysis is presented with visual aids like Bode plots to highlight gain and phase changes, aiming to provide a comprehensive understanding of how feedback networks interact with circuit components.

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Introduction to Frequency Response Changes

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The concepts we will be covering today are primarily how the locations of the poles are getting changed in the feedback system, and that is due to the location of the amplifier's poles and also the poles of the feedback network. We shall focus on the situation where the amplifier may have one pole, two poles, or even three poles. And also, we will be considering cases where the feedback network may not have any pole; only the amplifier may be having a pole or both the amplifier and the feedback network may have poles.

Detailed Explanation

In this section, we start by understanding how feedback networks can alter the positions of poles in an amplifier's frequency response. Poles are critical points in a transfer function that define the system's behavior at different frequencies. The amplifier can have different configurations: it can operate with one, two, or even three poles. Additionally, the feedback network can sometimes not include poles, which simplifies the situation, allowing us to focus solely on the amplifier’s characteristics. The reason this is important is that it helps us analyze how feedback can stabilize or change the performance of amplifiers in various applications.

Examples & Analogies

Think of the poles as traffic lights on a busy road. Each light controls the flow of traffic at different intersections (frequencies). By installing a roundabout (feedback network) instead of traffic lights, you can change how fast or slow the traffic moves at different times of the day. Just like the traffic flow changes based on the setup of the traffic control (feedback), the amplifier's performance changes based on the positions of the poles.

Case I: Feedback with One Pole

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Let us consider case I, where we assume that Ξ² is independent of frequency. In this system, we have a negative feedback system in DC condition, and let us assume that the forward amplifier has a transfer function that has only one pole. This means A(s) can be written in a certain form, where A is the low-frequency gain, and it has a pole at s = -p.

Detailed Explanation

In Case I, we analyze the impact of a single pole in the amplifier feedback system. We assume that the feedback factor (Ξ²), which could change with frequency, is constant. This scenario allows us to simplify our calculations. Here, the transfer function of the amplifier can be expressed mathematically, and it highlights the gain at low frequencies and its pole, which signifies stability and the system’s behavior at higher frequencies. We then derive the feedback system's transfer function based upon this configuration.

Examples & Analogies

Imagine you're running a shop (the amplifier), and you receive feedback from your customers about your products (the feedback network). If your product's demand never changes (constant feedback), you'll understand exactly how to adjust your inventory to meet sales effectively. The sole pole represents how steady you are at handling that feedback without getting overwhelmed.

Influence of Feedback on Pole Location

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If we write the expression of this A(s), in the numerator we have A, and in the denominator, we get (1 + Ξ²A). This part is independent of frequency, meaning the pole location of the feedback system, denoted pβ€², depends on the original pole p multiplied by (1 + Ξ²A). Therefore, we can say that the feedback system's pole is a shifted version of the original pole.

Detailed Explanation

Here, we explore how feedback can shift the location of the pole of the system. At the core, the pole of the feedback system is derived from the original amplifier's pole, adjusted by a factor associated with feedback (1 + Ξ²A). This adjustment can result in a new pole location (pβ€²), which dictates the system’s frequency response. Thus, we are able to quantify how introducing feedback affects the system’s stability and performance.

Examples & Analogies

Imagine adjusting the speed limit (the pole) on a road because of traffic adjustments (feedback). If the average speed of vehicles increases due to smoother traffic flow (higher Ξ²), you might decide to raise the speed limit higher (new pole), which could improve commuting times significantly. This demonstrates how quick feedback not only tells you what is happening but actively reshapes how the system (traffic) operates.

Visual Representation of Changes

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If we sketch the gain and phase of A in relation to the feedback system's gain and phase, we can find a clear correlation. The Bode plot of these elements can help visualize the changes in gain and phase due to the pole location shift, showcasing how the feedback influences the overall system response.

Detailed Explanation

Visualizing the changes in gain and phase through Bode plots provides a comprehensive view of how feedback mechanisms are influencing our amplifier behavior. By plotting these parameters, we can clearly observe the effects of the feedback on system stability and performance across frequencies. The correlation results show us where gains are increasing and how these changes manifest in terms of system response in real operational environments.

Examples & Analogies

Consider this visualization like a series of menus at a restaurant (gain) that changes based on customer feedback (feedback system). If certain dishes are more popular, you may notice spikes in orders (shifts in gain) and customer satisfaction (phase) around those menus. Plotting customer orders against feedback helps you understand what's working and where adjustments can improve the overall dining experience.

Definitions & Key Concepts

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Key Concepts

  • Feedback: The process of returning a portion of the output signal to the input, affecting the amplifier's stability and gain.

  • Poles: Points in the frequency response where the gain drops, indicating critical frequencies that influence the system's performance.

  • Bode Plots: Graphical representations of gain and phase versus frequency, useful for visualizing amplifier behavior under feedback.

Examples & Real-Life Applications

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Examples

  • In a simple inverting amplifier with negative feedback, when feedback is applied, the gain decreases and the pole shifts, providing more stable response characteristics.

  • In a two-pole system, if one pole is much lower than the other, even with feedback applied, the lower pole can dominate the frequency response.

Memory Aids

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🎡 Rhymes Time

  • In feedback we trust, stability's a must. With poles we adjust, without them, we rust.

πŸ“– Fascinating Stories

  • Imagine an amplifier as a person trying to maintain balance. Feedback is like a supportive friend helping adjust their position to stay upright, just as the poles shift to stabilize the gain.

🧠 Other Memory Gems

  • F-P-G: Feedback (F), Pole (P), Gain (G) - Remembering the three critical parts of feedback systems.

🎯 Super Acronyms

RPC

  • Remember Poles Change - reinforcing that feedback will alter pole locations.

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Glossary of Terms

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  • Term: Feedback

    Definition:

    A process where the output of a system is fed back into the input to enhance or reduce response.

  • Term: Pole

    Definition:

    A value in the Laplace domain that indicates where the gain of a system decreases significantly.

  • Term: Bode Plot

    Definition:

    A graphical representation of a system's frequency response, displaying gain and phase shift on a logarithmic scale.